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Standardize ALL Perl platforms on UNIX epoch

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  Maintainer: Nathan Wiger <nate@wiger.org>
  Date: 14 Aug 2000
  Last Modified: 28 Sep 2000
  Mailing List: perl6-language-datetime@perl.org
  Number: 99
  Version: 4
  Status: Frozen

ABSTRACT

Currently, internal time in Perl is maintained via time, which is highly system-dependent. On some systems, this is relative to the UNIX epoch, while others use their own epochs (MacPerl uses 1904, for example).

All versions of Perl on all platforms should maintain time both internally and externally as seconds since the UNIX epoch (00:00:00 01 Jan 1970 UTC).

DESCRIPTION

UNIX Epoch

Time is a dicey issue. While everyone disagrees on what the "right" epoch is to use, everyone generally agrees that time synchronization across different versions of Perl is a good thing.

The UNIX epoch is already a widely-established standard and seems as good as any. This has the added benefit that most users will see no change, since most users use a version of Perl which is already based on the UNIX epoch.

Other Time Properties

Everyone seems pretty well agreed that while they want a standard epoch, they also really want access to important alternative information, such as ISO and native system time.

There are three alternatives:

   1. Do not provide this information
   2. Add additional builtins to deal with this information
   3. Make time into a function that returns a polymorphic object

Option 3 seems the most gracious, and nobody else was willing to even entertain numbers 1 or 2. As such, we'll explore what could be returned from said time object.

However, note this is only needed if we decide the other information is important enough to be core-worthy. The opinion seems split on this one.

Potential Time Object

A time object could, conceivably, look like this:

   $t = time;        # time object in scalar context

   $t++;             # ->NUMBER, same as ->unix
   print "$t";       # ->STRING, same as ->unix

   $t->unix          # UNIX epoch seconds
   $t->iso           # ISO format
   $t->mjd           # modified julian date
   $t->native        # native time, whatever that may be

For example. Despite offering it up as a possibility, however, this RFC does not strictly require a time object be returned from time. Note that by creating a polymorphic object time will look just like it created a scalar to users, meaning they don't have to even know it's an object if they don't want to.

IMPLEMENTATION

The time core function must be changed to return the number of seconds since the UNIX epoch on ALL platforms. Note this behavior is inconsistent with previous versions of time and must be noted clearly in the documentation.

The time value should be maintained as a 64-bit int (or float) with a ridiculous amount of precision, per RFC 7.

The issue is still open as to whether or not time should be maintained internally via TAI or UTC. Both have their pros and cons. TAI is more accurate, but does not have any close correlation to many platforms. UTC has leap-second trickery, but has the distinct advantage that it would remain consistent with UNIX platforms. This means time would appear unchanged to all the Linux hackers, which is probably a good thing.

REFERENCES

RFC 7: Higher resolution time values

RFC 48: Replace localtime() and gmtime() with date() and utcdate()

RFC 159: True Polymorphic Objects

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